AWeber’s Most Irritating Problems
by ZetaGecko | 15 Comments | Email, Issues/Problems, Marketing
AWeber is a great service, and for the most part I'm very happy with it. But it does have a few irritating problems. Here's my list of the worst. Have any pet peeves that aren't listed? Share them in the comments.
Just Plain Wrong
There's one feature where my complaint isn't just a matter of opinion -- AWeber is just plain wrong. When a user clicks the link at the bottom of an email to unsubscribe or change their subscription settings (their email address, etc.), AWeber displays a radio button that they can use to unsubscribe.
The problem is that when they click the radio button, they're unsubscribed immediately without having to click a submit button. This is not how radio buttons are supposed to work. What if someone goes to that page to update their email address and idly clicks the unsubscribe radio button, intending to switch it back? They get unsubscribed.
The CAN-SPAM act requires that subscribers can unsubscribe with a single click (that may be a new rule added within the last week or so). So adjusting the radio button's behavior isn't the answer -- AWeber should replace the radio button with a regular button.
Very Important Feature
Aweber isn't wrong not to have the following features, but these features are so important that it's a little ridiculous that they don't.
Search and Replace
I can search my mailing list and update each subscriber's information one at a time, but I can't do a global search and replace.
Say for example I want to insert a new follow up message in the middle of my autoresponder sequence. For each subscriber, AWeber tracks the number of the last message that was sent to them. When I insert a message, for anyone who's already received the message after the new one, they get the most recent message they receive again. I need to be able to search for everyone who's received, for example, message 5 or higher, and increase their "last message sent" number by one.
Another example would be if I had a custom field and I changed the options for what data appeared in it. I'd want to search for and replace any obsolete options with new values. Doing this manually, one subscriber at a time on anything but a very tiny list is out of the question.
Insert Message in Sequence
Another way to partially solve the previous problem would be to allow users to specify where in their autoresponder sequence new messages should be inserted, and increment the last message sent number for anyone who'd already received the message after that one.
Another good option to add there would be the ability to decide whether broadcast that message to everyone who wouldn't receive it because of where it was being inserted in the sequence. Sure, it could be sent as a broadcast to those people without too much trouble, but it would be even easier if it could all be done in one step.
Control the UI for editing user-editable data
AWeber's form editor enables users to create popup lists, check boxes, etc. That's great--very useful. The problem is that when they click the link at the bottom of an email to edit their subscription options, all of that data is displayed in fields into which the user can enter whatever they want.
The user needs to be able to control how the data is presented there as much as they do in the signup forms.
Restrict Subscription Methods
There are three ways to get on an AWeber mailing list: submitting a subscription form, sending an email to listname@aweber.com, and the list owner submitting your information. We need to able to restrict which of those methods can be used with our mailing lists.
Let's say I have a buyer's mailing list for one of my products and the list's name is "foo". No one should be able to get on it by sending an email to foo@aweber.com! I'm not sure whether it's possible to subscribe my making your own form unless you know the ID number of a form that the list owner has created (which would be impractical to try to figure out by brute force, because the numbers are pretty high), but especially if it is possible without knowing a valid form number, that method should be restrictable too.
It is possible to avoid sending broadcast emails to anyone who subscribed using an inappropriate method (you can segment your list by subscription method, and send only to those who used a legitimate method), but that's not possible with follow up messages. If products are attached to follow up emails, or if they contain proprietary information, those things can easily be stolen if one knows the name of the mailing list -- a big problem for people using AWeber for lists whose membership they want restricted.
It would sure be nice...
This feature isn't so critical as those listed above, but it'd really enhance AWeber's service.
More options than "user editable"
When an AWeber user creates a custom field, they can decide whether subscribers are allowed to edit the data. That's important, because that data might indicate, for example, whether the subscriber is a paying customer (and entitled to extra benefits) or not. Subscriber's shouldn't be able to edit that.
But we need more options. For example, if a field isn't user editable, it can't be set using a hidden field in the subscription form. There need to be two options -- the user can set it initially but not edit it, and the user can edit it any time. Non-editable items could either not be displayed in the form where a subscriber edits their options (probably the best way to do it), or whether to display each non-editable option could be another option.
August 16th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
One thing that annoys me is how limited the web form fields are.
For one thing, if you import a lead or put it in manually, AWeber has fields available for all the usual stuff: first name, last name, full address, phone, email, etc. But if you create a web form for the customer to sign up, you can only put full name and email as the fields, unless you create a custom field.
If Aweber already has these fields in their lead table, why don't they let you add them to the web form? Don't know.
Another annoying thing: Since Aweber only lets you have Full Name as the field, it automatically parses out the first word as the first name and the last word as the last name. So if someone signs up as Jo Ann Van Hoten, they will be saved as Jo Hoten. True, you can use custom fields for first and last name (although you have to name them something else on your web form because AWeber tells you, "sorry, you can't have two fields with the word 'name' on your web form)," but then you lose the capitalization correction feature, so if someone enters jo ann, your email will say Dear jo ann instead of Dear Jo Ann.
August 20th, 2008 at 1:31 am
I totally agree with you.
Aweber has a very nice feature for e-marketing purposes. Though there are alot of loopholes here and there which could be improved. But thats ok compare to its ease of use.
Their main lacking it only support Latin text. Forget about other text such as, Chinese, Urdu, Arab, Thai, Japs, etc.
I really hope the developer would take a serious matter into these. It would benefit them in many way.
Another irritating thing about Aweber is their customer service. With the amount of fees that I am paying, I feel I should receive a better customer service. Talking to them feel like talking to a robot. Help from customer service does not help at all.
August 28th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Hi,
I just want the "SHOW MY LIST" button?
Where is the logic in leaving this out?
Why do I have do a stupid search and include the "@" symbol to simply get my list to display?
Very annoying ; (
Greg Gillspie
August 28th, 2008 at 1:44 am
Greg,
I'm not sure what you mean -- if you click the "leads" tab and click "display view" (with "all leads" selected), doesn't that give you the whole list?
September 13th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Great post!
The big problem with Aweber so far I find is the lack of function to import autoresponder messages in bulk. I have to upload 50 msgs manually through their interface.
But most likely other autoresponder services won't offer such function anyway.
November 1st, 2008 at 5:10 am
editing a message is a pain in the b... it does take for ever, because it seems like the running some backups all the time. One little message three little changes 30-40 minutes. Am I doing something wrong???? Any input on that?
November 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Its my first time using aweber and the feature i dont like is the form creation part.. It's just plain lousy. But the most part im happy with it
December 23rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
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August 20th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Just an update here, and thanks Antone now, Aweber does this, when I first wrote this two years ago it did not, well at least on Mac Firefox version.
You just need to leave the search blank and it will show you the full list.
OH and yes now Aweber have finally caught up to their competition and Do allow single optin. Just getting list members from an external source is still double optin though.
December 7th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Another annoying thing about aweber is that if you include an unsubscribe in yorui email - they still add one at the bottom in teh standard "times new roman" font - I thought it should be easy to realise that there is an unsubscribe link in the email so no need to add one!
hey ho.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
I second the complaint about not being able to bulk upload autoresponder messages. This is a ridiculous lack of basic functionality. I have a year long autoresponder sequence to upload, and to the best of my knowledge it still requires each message to be uploaded individually. Perhaps it has something to do with having to add a subject line. I t sure would be nice if there was a workaround!
December 14th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Mark,
I noticed recently that AWeber finally has an API. I haven't looked into it in detail yet, but it may be possible to write a third party tool to bulk upload messages.
September 3rd, 2014 at 8:23 am
Hello,
How to subscribe user to different list option in Aweber using one form. I have four option list, according to language and gender.
tipsmeneng -----English Men
tipswoeng -------English Women
tipsmensp ------SpanishMen
tipswosp---------Spanish Women
February 28th, 2015 at 2:54 am
Although these are irritating problems I have to say that I have been with more than 3 auto responders in the past, all the while I have had my Aweber account. And I still have my account with Aweber. With all of the above short comings, and yes I also searched for a way to subscribe a user to several lists according to their choice (which I still have to find), but I decided to use Aweber because I trust the safety of their system and the fact that they have a huge team that will build out the system - maybe a bit slow to adjust but there are so many scenario's to consider and it would be dumb to implement any new feature without careful consideration as to how it will influence the current winning class product.