An open letter to Shawn Casey
by ZetaGecko | 19 Comments | Email
Even the big boys sometimes shoot themselves in the foot. Something Shawn Casey is doing is hurting his email deliverability and probably his response rates, and while I know why he's doing it, there is a better way...
Hi Shawn,
I tried to get this message to you through your help desk, but I got the impression that my message wasn't going to make it to you, and I'm sure other people will be able to benefit from what I wanted to tell you, so I've decided to post it here.
Last week, I was looking through my GMail spam folder for a message I knew had been sent to me but which I'd never received, and I saw a bunch of messages from you there. I marked them all "not spam", figuring that would teach GMail that I want to receive your messages, but a few days later, I noticed that more messages from you had gone into my spam folder. That got me curious, so I finally got around to reading one of the messages, and saw immediately what was causing the problem.
Both GMail and Thunderbird (I get my GMail in Thunderbird using POP3) warned me that they thought your message wasa scam. What's happening is that in your HTML emails, you've got some links which go to a different URL when clicked than the one that's displayed to the reader. That's a technique commonly used in phishing scams.
I understand that you're doing it because you want to display "nice looking" URLs, but you want the clicks to run through a system that does click tracking for you. But it's causing you two problems: it's triggering spam filters for people like me who haven't gone through the trouble of adding you to our contact lists, and when we do manage to find your emails, it's causing those scam warnings.
If the click-tracking links are getting generated automatically by your list management software, then you need to contact whoever runs that and get them to fix the problem. But if you are in control of the process, I can think of three solutions. 1) Sacrifice having "nice looking" URLs displayed in your emails -- just display the link to your click tracker. 2) Don't display a URL as the link text -- if the link text isn't a URL, spam/scam filters aren't going to freak out about the mistmatch between the text and the actual link. 3) If you really want "nice looking URLs" to send people through your click tracking system:
1) Create a nice looking URL pointing to your server, and put it in your email -- display that URL to the reader, and have them go to that URL when they click.
2) At the click target location, put a simple redirector that sends the reader to your click-tracking URL.
3) Have the click tracking URL redirect the reader to the desired final destination URL.
I'm guessing that it won't be as simple as this, since I'm assuming the tracking links are being generated automatically by your mailing list manager. However, there's still a reasonably simple solution, if you can get your list manager to cooperate. Here's how.
1) Configure your web server to trigger a script when someone tries to load a page that doesn't exit (ie. set up a custom 404 page, and point it to a script rather than a static page) -- OR -- use URL rewriting to accomplish the same thing.
2) Have the script check (if you're using the 404 method -- if you're using URL rewriting, you can skip this part) the start of the request URI to see whether the link is pointing to a particular directory (for example, if your site is "http://example.com/", you could reserve all URLs beginning with "http://example.com/link/" for this use). If not, just display a normal 404 page.
3) Have the script redirect to your click tracker, and put the rest of the request URI in the click tracker link, along with something to identify you as the click tracker user (for example, if the link was "http://example.com/link/whizbang-1", and your user ID with your click tracker is "foo", have it redirect to "http://click-track.example.org/track.cgi?user=foo&link=whizbang-1").
4) Your click tracker tracks the click and redirects back to the desired target destination.
Your mailing list manager/click tracker would have to enable you to specify two things for each link: your final target distination, and the "nice looking URL" that the reader initially clicks through to.
Best of luck to you in maximizing your deliverability and click-thru rates.
Antone Roundy
May 11th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Antone, do you have an email contact for Shawn Casey? I need it as I need to urgently contact him regarding a business in Australia. Cheers. Alan
June 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Why would anyone want to willingly get e-mails from Shawn Casey? I have to work extra hard to keep this rip off artist from even ending up in my spam box. Anyone stupid enough to believe his scam and want his e-mails should seek mental help. He became a million aire by ripping off desperate people.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:08 am
I am posting to you re Shawn Casey.
I fell for one of his operations-and
now -lke you-know its fraud. Do you have
any information on where he actually
hangs out?i.e. an email that can be
pursued by Visa and the FBI?
-I am angry-but its my own fault.
Thank You
Wilton Rodger
New Zealand.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I cant believe you are actually looking to help a rip-off artist like casey. You might be a geek but you are lacking in geek discernment.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Ms Smith
What do you have that Shawn Casey is a Scam Artist? In my searches I have come across more bad comments about him than good and for me usually that is enough not to get involved in what he does. But that is assumption based on negative references, not the same as facts. I'd be interested to know what you have learned about him that is factual and reference-able?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I followed some of Shawn Casey's advice in one of his products and it was pretty sound advice.
Since that time, and applying some of what he said, I am making around $60K a year online. Not insane money, but enough to keep me home with my kids and pay the bills.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Wilton: "and now -lke you-know its fraud" -- I don't "know" any such thing. I've never had a bad experience with Mr. Casey. As for "where he hangs out" so the FBI can track him, I'm sure they'd have no trouble finding that out on their own if they wanted to.
The FTC is cracking down on internet fraud lately. If Mr. Casey is defrauding people, I'm sure he's a big enough player that they'll get to him soon enough.
Since I haven't heard of any such thing happening, for now, I'll stick with my personal impression -- that while not everyone is happy with his marketing methods (which is going to be true of ANY marketer, no matter how squeaky clean), he's not defrauding people. If some people have had trouble with transactions with him, I believe it's unintentional.
Sure, I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I agree with Antone. Casey, from what I was told by someone "in-the-know" at a seminar is far bigger a marketer than many of the "TV gurus" you see in infomercials.
If he were doing something wrong the FTC would have hit him. In my opinion he's one of the Goodguys. The place to look for the scammers is on the Clickbank.com marketplace in my opinion.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 am
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To: ancomb@edarelo.com
Subject: RE: I can give you $497.00 today
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:05:41 -0300
So you are a nice man that wants to share the wealth in these troubled financial times. You want to give a little back to people right now, because you feel so fortunate that you are making so much money at present, that you want to give a little of your secret away. How generous of you. You know , I feel you are not that man at all. Unfortunately, some people are going to buy into your deal, and it might be their last 27 bucks, but times are so tough for the American people right now, that they will grasp at anything. I might have learned something from you sir, but you set no example at all. Your a Millionaire, and I can pretty much figure out how you got there. Where is the goodness in people. My gosh, If you kit was for free, I probably would have wanted to gift you some bucks at some point for helping me. I am the kind of person that thinks of what I can do for people, FOR FREE when I make a Million. Not became so rich that I need to make Millions, and then Millions more. How much does anyone really need but to be comfortable. You probably did work hard to get where you are , and of coarse you are going to continue to get rich by selling people these kits, and I really hope it works out for them. These are tough economic times. But the excess some people have is , quite frankly , embarrassing. So please sir, don't invade my my JUNK mail ever again with a free offer, that cost 27 bucks. My sister is a lawyer, and she will hear of it.Karma sir. Be happy with the money you have made, and share it. It will make you even richer. Sent this to Shaunm and it came back to me 2wice. Postmaster failure
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 am
My Bad. I should not have been stupid enough to respond to JUNK mail
November 5th, 2009 at 2:16 am
I was unfortunate to have fallen for this Guy and his henchmen who phoned me several times after I had been foolish enough to fall for his "free" CD offer, only catch was I had to pay the Postage $9 and change, so at that point it should have rung a bell. Well around 5-6 weeks later when checking my bank statement I discovered an amount of $110.00 taken from my bank account by guess who, you guessed it "Shawn Casey" and all from me using my Visa card for the postage of the "free" CDs. Now don't that beat all? I start out wanting free CDs and end up being charged an extra $110.00. I can't see how one transaction for postage can end up being used for a second transaction which I never knew anything about, and have not even seen the free CDs Yet. May be it is for his henchmen ringing me up, but whatever it is for, I have tried to contact him by email without any luck and as far as all the Spam that I get from him it is endless. I have tried to stop it but when I use the opt out option in his email, well it goes nowhere and comes back saying there was an error etc. My hope lies with Visa now who assures me that you can't be billed for another second unrelated transaction some time later without the consent of the cardholder. That was my experience with "Shawn Casey" so does any one know his email address where emails go and get to the party concerned? Your Help Please!!!!.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I just received a bank statement and Shaun Casey took $200.oo from my bank account. I never even heard of him .How can scum bags like this get away with internet fraud. taking peoples money without their consent or knowledge. And how does he get bank info? I work hard for a living and now I have to go through all this banking garbage to get my money back (if I can).
HOW DOES HE SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING TAHT HE DID THIS TO PEOPLE.???
November 30th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
After reading these responses I think I made a mistake trusting in the "Business in a Box" and "Mining Gold" not to mention the "Gold Plus Affiliate Program" which I am still Doing but with some real concern. I joined several months ago and I have been using all the things he has suggested. I got several domains and I signed up for Blogs, Hubs, and social Networks like My-space, Face-book ,You-tube, and Google. I linked my websites to the "Gold Plus Affiliate Program" campaigns 1.Internet In a Box 2.Desperate for Money 3. FAST(fast affiliate system) 4.Auto Pilot Profits 5. Headline Creator Pro. Not one Cent has been generated to date and now I received a message that these programs are being deleted or deactivated within 48 hours. I submitted a ticket to gold-wares support and was told it is being updated as yet no replacement. Now here is my problem, I received a call from Shawn Casey's coaching staff stating that for my success story they will mentor and coach me. They want me to do what is called O.P.M. That is using Other Peoples Money to run my business, and of coarse I should get it from a web site http://www.instantopm.com after getting the credit call them back and invest the money in Shawn Casey's system to make money from their coaching me. something seems fishy to me. I have had medical problems and can not afford to loose or invest without a real return.
December 13th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
I realised I was being charged $99 a month by 800-750-3436SHAWNC ASEY DULUTH GA.
It started while I was away and had paid the card company for 3 months in advance, but these payments then put me in arrears and have cost me a $50 late fee and interest for at least 2 months.
I have given no instructions for any monthly service (possibly I purchased a one-off early in the year).
I found an address and wrote to it; it was difficult to find a way on the internet to send an an email, perhaps impossible.
It is there again on my card account due tomorrow.
December 31st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Why wouldn't you just call 800-750-3436? that is why companies put the numbers on your cc and bank statements.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Hey everybody,
I wanted to share some things you could actually learn from Shawn Casey:
To enroll people in a comtinuity program is quite common and very affective. I am sure he does not hide this on the order page (would quickly get his merchant account shut down). Just cancel the membership once you get your 'free' dvds.
He charges you shipping & handling (or 1 Dollar trial) ONLY TO GET YOUR CREDIT CARD and cover for the cost to get you as a lead.
Why the hack would a businessman give you stuff for free? He will do his best to give you something worth more to you than the price he asks.
Just contact his company for a refund before you jump to conclusions and publish them in the internet. There is a high chance you get the refund.
And some positive thinking:
Someone financially successful will not waste a minute complaining about getting ripped off - he will make sure he gets his money back. Period. If you want to become that someone, here is your chance to start!
June 1st, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Who would help a notorious scammer like Shawn Casey??? I mean dude this guy is going straight to hell heck from the nice "solutions' you gave him maybe you will be indicted as an accomplice...unreal
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 am
Shawn Casey keeps on e-mailing and presses you to jump on to do it asap!
" Only for 250," comment seems a scam! Why would one be so generous and open the mistery for only 250?
I have learned: IF YOU QUESTION ONE SINGLE WORD or have questions in your heart, simply: DON"T DO IT!
June 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
I agree with the person who commented about wanting to get something for nothing from a "millionaire" Just because they are a "millionaire" How entitled one must be to expect such a thing. It takes hard work and a lot of sweat and blood and time to created a successful internet business. I have heard that most people who purchase Mr Casey's material do not even read it much less invest the time to build their own dreams. Do you suppose that Mr. Casey should also include a rountrip ticket to Hawaii with your purchase just because he is after all a "miliionaire" and could afford it. Being successful on the internet is not as easy as it looks, and as with most endevours, it takes dedication, time, sacrifices, and intelligent direction. Something Mr. Casey learned the hard way. What a pleasure to be able to learn from someone like him. Thumbs up for his material and vision.